Comments on: Why You Don’t Want to Run Email Submits

By: ace

ace — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:44:56 +0000

Jesus, I guess you needed to add some nonsense in to get as close to 400 words as you can? As I have been saying all along, do you really make any money? God bless those nubs that are paying to be in your forum.

By: Let Me Set Things Straight | Justin Dupre

Let Me Set Things Straight | Justin Dupre — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:38:38 +0000

[...] lot of people took some things I said in this post the wrong way. Yes, it included some poor information and for that I apologize. I wrote it quick [...]

By: Kyle Irwin

Kyle Irwin — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:34:23 +0000

Worst post ever. Christ, I can't believe I ever read you blog. Enjoy the ladybois.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:39:32 +0000

I read this post and came up with this ... http://imgur.com/VYzJQ.png

By: Justin Dupre

Justin Dupre — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:07:28 +0000

True, and I wasn't intending to say you will make more money promoting an offer that pays out $30 rather than $1, but it's I guess down to what you are scaling and how you are scaling it. An email/zip submit can only go so far before you start getting crap traffic and having the scrub button turned to the on position.

You'd be tough pressed to get 1000 legal leads a day, however, you've got huge niches out there such as dating, weight loss, beauty, smoking, gaming, gambling, make money online that can be scaled out, maybe not as much as any gift-card zip submit offer, but its just down to where you want to put the effort in, and for me, its not in $1 payout email/zip submits.

By: Josh

Josh — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:11:37 +0000

Tight margins but they can be profitable. You just have to monitor the more than other campaigns I find.

By: Thomas

Thomas — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:41:45 +0000

Great post!

I made some profit with e-mail/zip submits but all the campaigns I tried never lived more than 1-3 days…

By: Justin Dupre

Justin Dupre — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:11:20 +0000

Thanks for filling in some of the blanks, dullspace.

Lazy quick written post gets scolded appropriately.

I figure there are just better ways to make money than with email/zip submits (the free gift ones, at least). You could spend time focusing on it, or you could spend time focusing on offers that are a bit harder to convert, and as such, usually pay out more because they require some sort of payment from the user.

Like Nick said… 2 out of 50+ offers running long term. I'd rather focus my time on projects a bit more stable.

By: dullspace

dullspace — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:59:31 +0000

There are many factual errors in your post.

"Free gift" email submits don't make money from the email addresses, but rather from the user filling out the incentive-based CPA offers on the following pages to earn the gift. That's why you'll see email submits priced 5-10 cents higher than their equivalent zip submit. The zip is worth $0 and the email is worth the difference. The quality adjustment you discuss in your post that happens over time is the result of some traffic not filling out the incentive-based offers and existing the registration path. Other, often pre-qualified, traffic fills out many offers and never sees a scrubbing percentage.

Additionally, your entire third paragraph asserts that a higher CPA is invariable better than a lower CPA. This is a fundamental misunderstanding of affiliate marketing and were it true, there would only be volume on a handful of the highest paying offers. However, it remains that dating, downloads, mobile subscriptions, and daily deal offers are some of the strongest currently in the CPA space.

You've really done a disservice to the less educated of your readers with this post. I hope you make an effort to research topics further before distributing misinformation.

By: browie

browie — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:08:14 +0000

The other nice thing with submits is you can teach a noob (wife) how to direct link and optimize for an extra $100/day :)