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		<title>By: Justin Dupre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Dupre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>umadbro? </description>
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		<title>By: LOLdupre</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOLdupre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So your making hundreds of thousands a year and you are doing some review of a shitty CPA network for what - 100 bucks? LOL Such a baller bro. </description>
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		<title>By: Josh Galligan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Galligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the response Jake. Like Justin said, you make some good points, so I shall answer them. 
 
To start off, I could have went on a lot more but I&#039;m pretty sure Justin would have throttled me for turning the post into the Internet Marketing version of War and Peace. Fortunately, we have these here comments to keep the fun going. 
 
I don&#039;t expect people to want to join our network solely because we&#039;re offering free content -- that&#039;s just a plus. It&#039;s kind of become a tongue-in-cheek type joke that basically ALL affiliate networks say the EXACT same thing when they launch. Like I said in the post, I think every network starts out with good intentions, but during the crucible that follows a launch and entails around 18+ hour work days -- that&#039;s where some networks flounder and some do not. Every network talks the talk when they launch -- they&#039;d be an absolute idiot not to do so -- it&#039;s all about whether they can walk the walk afterward. And yes, I realize that was the corniest possible analogy I probably could have made... :P 
 
We&#039;re not giving away free content because we think it&#039;s going to get people to join with us. We&#039;re giving away from content because A) We can, B) It will be very helpful and cost-effective for our affiliates, and C) Because it&#039;s also going to help us out as well. But if you think I&#039;m not going to try to point out how we&#039;re probably the only Affiliate Network to be giving out free content in the first few days of our launch -- when that is PRECISELY the thing that separates us from the normal upstart networks -- than you&#039;re crazy. Why in the world should we remain mum about that when I can damn near guarantee you it&#039;ll be some of the best damn content you&#039;ve ever received in your Affiliate Marketing life. 
 
I&#039;m glad to hear that you don&#039;t enjoy selling people rebills, and you&#039;ll be pleased to know that we&#039;ve got a vast range of the best sub-brokered offers from all around the Affiliate Network land. If you don&#039;t see anything that you like or want to run, then ask me, and Jeff and I will do everything humanly possible to get that offer for you. Whether you choose to believe what I&#039;m saying as truth or not is up to you. Despite the fact that the vast majority of start-up Affiliate Networks crash and burn, there are still some that make it through the trial of CPA fire and just keep going on up. 
 
Should you believe us when we predict that we&#039;ll do everything we can to make this work? No. I wouldn&#039;t even believe someone if they said that. And that&#039;s fine. If you like what you&#039;ve heard from us thus far, then sign up and see what we&#039;re all about. If not, then by all means, wait it out and see if we&#039;re still standing strong in a couple of weeks or months. If we&#039;re not, I&#039;ll be the first one to up and make fun of myself for not making it through. But it&#039;s going to take something damn near catastrophic for me to finally give up on this whole thing.  
 
I know that some people are going to require hand holding and basic topic explanations while other people are going to just require me to tell them how sick their new BMW is. Trust me, I have no problem doing either. 
 
I guess what I&#039;ve been meaning to try and say is, it&#039;s a complete and utter waste of time for me to sit here and explain what sets us apart. There&#039;s nothing that I can say that hasn&#039;t been said before or will be said again. And there&#039;s nothing too impressive I could say that would likely get anyone here to believe me. The free content sets us apart a bit, sure. But that&#039;s not all we&#039;re about. 
 
In conclusion, I guess the best thing that I could say is that I&#039;m dedicated and driven to make this a success. And not only that, but to make it a success for all of our affiliates. If you need a lot of help and need me to pull an all-nighter with you to get you on the right track -- I&#039;ll do it. If you want to call me at 3am because you&#039;re frigging sloshed and want to talk to someone then I&#039;ll pick up. I&#039;ll be fucking bullshit at you, but I&#039;ll pick up. Unless I&#039;m getting laid or something. Then you&#039;re just shit out of luck, bro. 
 
I could literally go on for another two hours with all of the stuff that&#039;s in my head right now -- because there&#039;s a lot of it. The best advice I could give if you&#039;re an Affiliate Marketer who&#039;s on the fence about joining up with us -- hit either me or Jeff up on AIM. WhiteFireJeff and WhiteFireJosh. Hey, I just realized both of our name begins with J. Huh. Or hit me up on AIM and ask for my cell number and I&#039;ll talk to you for however long you want as long as it doesn&#039;t interfere with my other obligations.  
 
Other than that, I&#039;ve got nothing else really. Hopefully I&#039;ve answered all of your questions, thanks again for asking them (and giving me the opportunity to explain some more) and hit one of us up if you&#039;ve got anything else. Or just post it here, I&#039;m sure Justin don&#039;t mind all these long ass comments on his posts. :P </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response Jake. Like Justin said, you make some good points, so I shall answer them.</p>
<p>To start off, I could have went on a lot more but I&#039;m pretty sure Justin would have throttled me for turning the post into the Internet Marketing version of War and Peace. Fortunately, we have these here comments to keep the fun going.</p>
<p>I don&#039;t expect people to want to join our network solely because we&#039;re offering free content &#8212; that&#039;s just a plus. It&#039;s kind of become a tongue-in-cheek type joke that basically ALL affiliate networks say the EXACT same thing when they launch. Like I said in the post, I think every network starts out with good intentions, but during the crucible that follows a launch and entails around 18+ hour work days &#8212; that&#039;s where some networks flounder and some do not. Every network talks the talk when they launch &#8212; they&#039;d be an absolute idiot not to do so &#8212; it&#039;s all about whether they can walk the walk afterward. And yes, I realize that was the corniest possible analogy I probably could have made&#8230; :P</p>
<p>We&#039;re not giving away free content because we think it&#039;s going to get people to join with us. We&#039;re giving away from content because A) We can, B) It will be very helpful and cost-effective for our affiliates, and C) Because it&#039;s also going to help us out as well. But if you think I&#039;m not going to try to point out how we&#039;re probably the only Affiliate Network to be giving out free content in the first few days of our launch &#8212; when that is PRECISELY the thing that separates us from the normal upstart networks &#8212; than you&#039;re crazy. Why in the world should we remain mum about that when I can damn near guarantee you it&#039;ll be some of the best damn content you&#039;ve ever received in your Affiliate Marketing life.</p>
<p>I&#039;m glad to hear that you don&#039;t enjoy selling people rebills, and you&#039;ll be pleased to know that we&#039;ve got a vast range of the best sub-brokered offers from all around the Affiliate Network land. If you don&#039;t see anything that you like or want to run, then ask me, and Jeff and I will do everything humanly possible to get that offer for you. Whether you choose to believe what I&#039;m saying as truth or not is up to you. Despite the fact that the vast majority of start-up Affiliate Networks crash and burn, there are still some that make it through the trial of CPA fire and just keep going on up.</p>
<p>Should you believe us when we predict that we&#039;ll do everything we can to make this work? No. I wouldn&#039;t even believe someone if they said that. And that&#039;s fine. If you like what you&#039;ve heard from us thus far, then sign up and see what we&#039;re all about. If not, then by all means, wait it out and see if we&#039;re still standing strong in a couple of weeks or months. If we&#039;re not, I&#039;ll be the first one to up and make fun of myself for not making it through. But it&#039;s going to take something damn near catastrophic for me to finally give up on this whole thing. </p>
<p>I know that some people are going to require hand holding and basic topic explanations while other people are going to just require me to tell them how sick their new BMW is. Trust me, I have no problem doing either.</p>
<p>I guess what I&#039;ve been meaning to try and say is, it&#039;s a complete and utter waste of time for me to sit here and explain what sets us apart. There&#039;s nothing that I can say that hasn&#039;t been said before or will be said again. And there&#039;s nothing too impressive I could say that would likely get anyone here to believe me. The free content sets us apart a bit, sure. But that&#039;s not all we&#039;re about.</p>
<p>In conclusion, I guess the best thing that I could say is that I&#039;m dedicated and driven to make this a success. And not only that, but to make it a success for all of our affiliates. If you need a lot of help and need me to pull an all-nighter with you to get you on the right track &#8212; I&#039;ll do it. If you want to call me at 3am because you&#039;re frigging sloshed and want to talk to someone then I&#039;ll pick up. I&#039;ll be fucking bullshit at you, but I&#039;ll pick up. Unless I&#039;m getting laid or something. Then you&#039;re just shit out of luck, bro.</p>
<p>I could literally go on for another two hours with all of the stuff that&#039;s in my head right now &#8212; because there&#039;s a lot of it. The best advice I could give if you&#039;re an Affiliate Marketer who&#039;s on the fence about joining up with us &#8212; hit either me or Jeff up on AIM. WhiteFireJeff and WhiteFireJosh. Hey, I just realized both of our name begins with J. Huh. Or hit me up on AIM and ask for my cell number and I&#039;ll talk to you for however long you want as long as it doesn&#039;t interfere with my other obligations. </p>
<p>Other than that, I&#039;ve got nothing else really. Hopefully I&#039;ve answered all of your questions, thanks again for asking them (and giving me the opportunity to explain some more) and hit one of us up if you&#039;ve got anything else. Or just post it here, I&#039;m sure Justin don&#039;t mind all these long ass comments on his posts. :P </p>
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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
		<link>http://justindupre.com/sponsored-post-white-fire-media-affiliate-network/#comment-6001</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Justin, 
 
Just signed up under you. Not new to IM but still, a little help from Jeff or Josh would be great. 
 
How are you doing in Bangkok?  
 
I&#039;m going there in November :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Justin,</p>
<p>Just signed up under you. Not new to IM but still, a little help from Jeff or Josh would be great.</p>
<p>How are you doing in Bangkok? </p>
<p>I&#039;m going there in November :) </p>
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		<title>By: Justin Dupre</title>
		<link>http://justindupre.com/sponsored-post-white-fire-media-affiliate-network/#comment-5998</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Dupre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are all really solid points. And if we can get Jeff or Josh to come reply to that, that would be great! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are all really solid points. And if we can get Jeff or Josh to come reply to that, that would be great! </p>
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		<title>By: Jake C.</title>
		<link>http://justindupre.com/sponsored-post-white-fire-media-affiliate-network/#comment-5997</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now here&#039;s my question. Why should I choose to run my campagins with WhiteFire. Simply the fact that you offer content for free (normally costing only .04 a word) is supposed to make me want to join your network? 
 
What really sets you a part. What in PERTICULAR sets you apart. For instance, ONE REASON I ABSOLUTELY ADORE NeverBlue is their rediculous range in products. I&#039;m an ethical affiliate, and I don&#039;t like to run &quot;run-of-the-mill&quot; scammy rebills. I care about my karma. So why should I go with you guys if you just have the same crappy offers as everyone else? 
 
I&#039;m a pretty new affiliate, not that new, but definitely no Justin Dupre or Volk. So yes, a little hand holding would be nice, but what exactly do you mean by hand holding. Will you show me &quot;ethical offers&quot; and give me advice on how to promote them. Will you look at my landing page ad give me advice on how to improve it, how to increase versions, and how to expand. WHAT REALLY SETS YOU APART. 
 
But at some point you have to realize that eventually affiliate get pretty independent and stop needing their affiliate managers. All of mine have been crap and I don&#039;t even understand the need of having them besides sending me annoying rebill filled NEW OFFER emails. So it does really come down to offers in offbeat (cool to get into, not satured) markets that are ethical for me. It comes out to a high payout right off the bat, it comes out to knowing you&#039;ll be paid regardless of if the advertiser comes through. Do you guys really have the backing to payout a 6 or 5 figure a day affiliate if your advertiser dissapears? I&#039;m not so much interested in your content writing, even though I guess that could be called a bonus. Again, WHAT REALLY SETS YOU APART? 
 
I&#039;ll give examples: Motive has a nice interface and some okay offers, but they mostly follow the crowd </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now here&#039;s my question. Why should I choose to run my campagins with WhiteFire. Simply the fact that you offer content for free (normally costing only .04 a word) is supposed to make me want to join your network?</p>
<p>What really sets you a part. What in PERTICULAR sets you apart. For instance, ONE REASON I ABSOLUTELY ADORE <a href="http://justindupre.com/cpa/neverblue" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://justindupre.com/cpa/neverblue';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">NeverBlue</a> is their rediculous range in products. I&#039;m an ethical affiliate, and I don&#039;t like to run &quot;run-of-the-mill&quot; scammy rebills. I care about my karma. So why should I go with you guys if you just have the same crappy offers as everyone else?</p>
<p>I&#039;m a pretty new affiliate, not that new, but definitely no Justin Dupre or Volk. So yes, a little hand holding would be nice, but what exactly do you mean by hand holding. Will you show me &quot;ethical offers&quot; and give me advice on how to promote them. Will you look at my <a href="http://justindupre.com/recommends/landingpages" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://justindupre.com/recommends/landingpages';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">landing page</a> ad give me advice on how to improve it, how to increase versions, and how to expand. WHAT REALLY SETS YOU APART.</p>
<p>But at some point you have to realize that eventually affiliate get pretty independent and stop needing their affiliate managers. All of mine have been crap and I don&#039;t even understand the need of having them besides sending me annoying rebill filled NEW OFFER emails. So it does really come down to offers in offbeat (cool to get into, not satured) markets that are ethical for me. It comes out to a high payout right off the bat, it comes out to knowing you&#039;ll be paid regardless of if the advertiser comes through. Do you guys really have the backing to payout a 6 or 5 figure a day affiliate if your advertiser dissapears? I&#039;m not so much interested in your content writing, even though I guess that could be called a bonus. Again, WHAT REALLY SETS YOU APART?</p>
<p>I&#039;ll give examples: Motive has a nice interface and some okay offers, but they mostly follow the crowd </p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://justindupre.com/sponsored-post-white-fire-media-affiliate-network/#comment-5994</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just signed up this week and just like you, I got approved within 10minutes, 
awesome staff I talked to both Jeff and Josh and they&#039;re really helping their publishers!!!  I highly recommend White Fire, no doubt about it!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just signed up this week and just like you, I got approved within 10minutes,</p>
<p>awesome staff I talked to both Jeff and Josh and they&#039;re really helping their publishers!!!  I highly recommend <a href="http://justindupre.com/cpa/wfm" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://justindupre.com/cpa/wfm';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">White Fire</a>, no doubt about it!!! </p>
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